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V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Dong Zhou » 15 Feb 2013, 12:51

To separate it from the normal NPCs, this is a list of the 'top-flight' NPCs who will usually either be played as GM NPCs, or are otherwise head and shoulders above the rest. I'm using last game's list of heroes so if someone isn't on here, he should be on the NPC list, just wait for NPC to come round and do them him/her there.

Ideally format would be Name (birth) stats | Skills: | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found. Relations tacked onto the end like so: Location: Not Found | Father: Name (date). As for relationship importance: Father-Mother-Brother-Sister-Uncle-Aunt-Cousin-Grandchild, only one allowed. Adoption parents or oaths do not count unless done while they were a child or actual parents unknown while it doesn't work the other way so Cao Song for example won't have | Son: Cao Cao (???) on the end of his. Would also be helpful for a (g/n/b) depending on the novel (if applicable) morality of that character.


Cai Yan (Lady) (177) 31-29-82*-70-78* | Skills: Articulate (e), Artisan, Charming, Scribe (e), Study | Items: Shijing (The Book of Songs: Int +2; Cha +1) | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Cai Yong (132) (n)

Cao Cao (155) 97-55-97-98-94 | Skills: Acumen, Administration (e), Ambush, Articulate, Civil Engineer, Cunning (e), Dash (e), Farmer, Leader, Military Engineer, Networking (e), Propaganda, Siegecraft (e), Wile | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Cao Song (125) (n)

Cao Pi (187) 50-55-65-80-86 | Skills: Administration, Articulate, Charming, Civil Engineering, Cunning, Spy, Study | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Cao Cao (155) (b)

Cao Shuang (207) 44-47-32-67-72 | Skills: Charming, Civil Engineer, Networking | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Cao Zhen (185) (b/n)

Chen Gong (154) 54-58-83-71-75 | Skills: Ambush, Arrowstorm, Arson, Charming , Investigator, Jeer, Reversal, Rumour, Tactician, Trap | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Chen Tai (203) 87-45-88-84-75 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Ambush, Fusilade, Investigator, Rally Siegecraft, Tactician, Terrain (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Chen Qun (167) (n)

Cheng Pu (154) 78-83-67-57-78 | Skills: Aid, Duelist, Investigator, Leader, Siegecraft, Weaponmaster, Valor (e) | Items: Snake-Headed Spear [melee] (War +2) | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found

Cheng Yu (140) 70-56-92-74-63 | Skills: Administration, Ambush (e), Articulate (e), Cunning, Logistics, Networking, Rally, Rumour, Tactician, Terrain, Siegecraft, Wile | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Deng Ai (196) 93-77-95-83-43 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Aid, Ambush, Civil Engineer, Dash, Farmer (e), Leader, Logistics, Military Engineer, Rumour, Scout, Spy, Tactician, Terrain (e), Wile (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Dian Wei (160) 66-97-50-32-68 | Skills: Aid, Blitz, Duelist, Missile, Rally, Stealth, Trap, Valour (e), Weaponmaster (e) | Items: Meteor Hammer + 2(Melee) | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Diao Chan (Lady) (169) 30-22-62-54-100 | Skills: Aritsan, Charming (e), Rumour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n/g)

Dong Zhuo (139) 81*-93*-78-73-37 | Skills: Administration, Ambush, Arson, Charge, Civil Engineer, Cunning, Investigator, Loyalty, Military Engineer, Propaganda, Raid, Volley | Items: Red Hare [mount] (Lead +5; War +5) | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Mother: Lady Dong (102) (b)

Gan Ning (175) 89-94-74-53-60 | Skills: Ambush, Arrowstorm, Charge, Duelist, Inspire, Loyalty (e), Missile, Navy, Raid (e), Siegecraft, Terrain, Wall, Weaponmaster | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n/b)

Gongsun Zan (153) 75-73-62-65-71 | Skills: Aid, Breeder, Charge, Charming, Civil Engineer (e), Dash, Investigator, Fusillade, Raid, Rumor, Siegecraft, Trample | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n/b)

Guan Yu (162) 83-98-70-52-74 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Ambush, Charge (e), Charming, Dash, Duelist (e), Fusillade, Jeer, Leader, Networking, Raid, Rally, Scout, Terrain, Valor (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n/g)

Guo Jia (170) 40-24-97-74-80 [15% Injury 34-20-82-63-68] | Skills: Charming, Cunning, Investigator, Networking, Propaganda, Reversal, Tactician (e), Terrain, Wile (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Nt Found (n)

He Jin (135) 43-30-52-60-70 | Skills: Administration, Investigator, Loyalty, Networking | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Huang Gai (145) 76-73-72-50-82 | Skills: Aid, Ambush, Arson (e), Blitz, Charming, Duelist, Inspire, Investigator, Jeer, Loyalty, Navy (e), Rumour, Trap, Valor | Items: Steel Flail [melee] (War +2) | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Huang Zhong (148) 93-94-71-53-72 | Skills: Blitz, Charge, Duelist, Leader (e), Loyalty, Missile (e), Raid, Rally, Valour (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Huangfu Song (141) 87-63-78-75-85 | Skills: Administration , Arrowstorm, Arson, Charge, Commercialist, Dash, Investigator, Leader (e), Loyalty , Raid, Siegecraft | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (g/n)

Jia Chong (217) 56-36-64-92-77 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Aid, Charming, Investigator, Jeer, Rumour (e), Spy | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Jia Kui (174) (b)

Jia Xu (147) 44-40-99-80-65 | Skills: Administration, Ambush, Charming, Cunning (e), Networking (e), Rally , Reversal, Rumour, Siegecraft, Tactician (e), Trap, Wile (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Jiang Wei (205) 91-93-90-35-65 |Skills: Aid, Ambush, Cunning, Dash, Duelist, Farmer, Formation (e), Jeer, Missile, Rally, Reversal (e), Rumour (e), Trap (e), Wall | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n/b)

Liu Bei (161) 86-72-52-73-100 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Ambush, Arson, Artisan, Charge, Charming (e), Civil Engineer, Dash (e), Farmer, Investigator, Leader (e), Loyalty (e), Military Engineer, Missile, Networking (e), Propaganda, Rally (e), Riot | Items: Swords of Fate [melee] (War +3) | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (g)

Liu Shan (207) 11-34-37-44-66 | Skills: Charming | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Liu Bei (161) (b)

Lu Kang (210) 83-45-87-74-75 | Skills: Administration, Ambush, Architect, Civil Engineer, Counter, Cunning, Farmer, Investigator, Leader, Military Engineer (e), Navy, Networking, Propaganda, Rally, Reversal, Riot, Siegecraft, Terrain | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Lu Xun (183) (n/g)

Lu Su (172) 61-42-89-80-94 | Skills: Aid, Administration, Charming (e), Logistics, Networking, Spy, Tactician | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n/g)

Lu Xun (183) 95-50-96-97-84 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Aid, Ambush, Arson, Charming, Cunning, Dash, Farmer (e), Investigator, Leader, Navy, Networking, Propaganda, Reversal, Riot, Rumor (e), Scout, Tactician, Terrain (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Lu Jun (168) (n)

Lü Bu (156) 82-100-52-25-71 |Skills: Aid, Ambush, Arson, Avatar, Charge, Charming, Dash, Duelist (e), Grand Master, Jeer, Leader, Missile (e), Raid, Rally, Siegecraft, Trample, Valor (e), Weaponmaster (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officers | Location: Not Found (b/n)

Lü Meng (178) 91-74-93-33-79 | Skills: Administration, Ambush, Inspire, Investigator, Leader, Military Engineer, Rumour, Siegecraft, Stealth, Study (e), Tactician, Valour, Wile| Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Ma Chao (176) 86-97-62-35-88 | Skills: Aid, Arrowstorm, Charge, Duelist(e), Jeer, Leader, Raid, Siegecraft, Trample(e), Valour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Ma Teng (146) (n/b)

Pang De (171) 78-94-69-41-52 | Skills: Ambush, Blitz, Charge, Cunning, Duelist, Inspire, Stealth, Valor, | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Pang Tong (179) 72-36-94-70-60 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Arson, Cunning, Leader, Navy, Networking, Rumour (e), Tactician, Wile | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Sima Shi (207) 85-67-80-89-60 | Skills: Acumen, Administration (e), Aid, Dash, Investigator, Jeer, Leader, Propaganda, Rally, Rumor, Siegecraft, Spy, Tactician, Valour, Wile | Location: Not Found | Father: Sima Yi (179) (n/b)

Sima Yi (179) 96-72-90-96-82 | Skills: Acumen, Administration (e), Aid, Ambush, Architect, Cunning (e), Dash, Formation, Investigator, Leader, Logistics, Military Engineer, Rally, Reversal, Rumour, Siegecraft, Spy, Terrain*, Trap, Wall, Wile | Items: War Fan [melee] (War +1) | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Sima Fang (149) (n)

Sima Zhao (211) 74-40-81-79-68 | Skills: Aid, Ambush, Cunning, Leader, Rally, Reversal, Siegecraft, Tactician | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Sima Yi (179) (b)

Sun Ce (175) 94-92-71-58-86 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Blitz, Charge, Charming, Cunning, Duelist, Jeer, Leader (e), Navy, Networking, Siegecraft, Valour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Sun Jian (155) (n)

Sun Jian (155) 89-92-72-68-75 | Skills: Administration, Architect, Charge, Dash, Jeer, Leader, Missile, Navy, Rally, Siegecraft, Valour, Volley | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Sun Jun (219) 60-71-62-52-70 | Skills: Acumen, Charming, Rumour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Grandfather: Sun Gao (172) (b)

Sun Luban (Lady) (213) 31-30-79-57-82 | Skills: Charming, Networking, Rumour (e), Spy, Wile | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Sun Quan (182) (b)

Sun Quan (182) 75-71-77-95-91 | Skills: Acumen, Administration (e), Ambush, Architect, Charming, Farmer (e), Jeer, Leader, Military Engineer, Networking (e), Terrain, Valour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Sun Jian (151) (n)

Sun Shang Xiang (Lady) (188) 65-86-64-56-88 | Skills: Arrowstorm, Charming, Dash, Duelist, Jeer, Missile, Navy, Riot, Spy, Weaponmaster | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Sun Jian (155) (n)

Taishi Ci (166) 73-95-71-62-78 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Aid, Arrowstorm, Cunning, Duelist, Investigator, Missile (e), Raid, Stealth | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n/g)

Wei Yan (175) 82-89-65-48-62 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Ambush, Arrowstorm, Arson, Blitz, Charge, Duelist, Jeer, Leader, Loyalty, Scout, Stealth, Trap (e), Valour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (b/n)

Wen Yang (222) 71-91-61-46-58 | Skills: Aid, Duelist, Jeer, Raid, Valour (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Wen Qin (200) (n)

Xiahou Ba (202) 75-78-88-56-72 | Skills: Ambush, Dash, Charge, Loyalty, Raid, Scout , Tactician, Valour, Volley | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Xiahou Yuan (163) (n)

Xiahou Dun (157) 72-91-68-87-73 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Charge, Civil Engineer, Dash, Duelist, Farmer, Logistics, Scout, Valour, Wall | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Xiahou Yuan (163) 92-88-66-60-72 | Skills: Administration, Ambush, Aid, Charge, Counter, Duelist, Investigator (e), Leader, Logistics, Missile, Scout, Siegecraft, Terrain, Volley | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Xin Xiangying (Lady) (191) 42-40-94-54-64 | Skills: Acumen, Charming, Reversal, Rumour, Tactician | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Xin Pi (171) (n)

Xu Chu (170) 70-98-58-29-73 | Skills: Aid, Blitz, Duelist (e), Investigator, Military Engineer, Scout, Trap, Valour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Xu Huang (169) 90-91-76-41-71 | Skills: Aid, Ambush, Duelist, Leader (e), Logistics, Military Engineer, Missile, Raid, Scout (e), Siegecraft, Rumor | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found

Xu Shu (175) 48-68-85-65-84 | Skills: Ambush, Arson, Cunning, Networking, Tactician, Wile | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Mother: Lady Xun (150) (g/n)

Xun You (157) 63-42-96-78-82 | Skills: Acumen, Cunning, Military Engineer, Tactician (e), Reversal, Rumor, Terrain, Trap, Wall, Wile | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Xun Yu (163) 72-34-92-98-88 | Skills: Acumen (e), Administration (e), Charming, Cunning, Farmer, Networking (e), Reversal, Rumour, Siegecraft, Spy, Tactician, Terrain | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Cousin: Xun You (157) (g/n)

Yang Hu (190) 80-55-83-75-84 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Charming, Civil Engineer, Farmer, Navy, Networking, Leader, Propaganda, Terrain | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (g)

Yu Jin (159) 85-86-61-45-68 | Skills: Aid, Ambush, Arrowstorm, Charge, Duelist , Investigator, Leader, Logistics, Loyalty, Military Engineer, Navy , Rally | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Yuan Shao (154) 78-57-69-71-86 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Charge, Charming, Dash, Inspire, Investigator, Jeer, Leader, Networking, Rally, Siegecraft, Wile | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Uncle: Yuan Wei (145) (n)

Yuan Shu (155) 70-55-62-41-73 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Arson, Charge, Jeer, Logistics, Networking, Siegecraft | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Cousin: Yuan Shao (154) (b)

Yue Jin (159) 76-85-58-52-72 | Skills: Aid, Ambush, Arson, Duelist, Investigator, Leader, Missile, Trap, Siegecraft, Valour, Volley | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Zhang Fei (167) 94-99-78-57-44 | Skills: Aid, Ambush, Artisan, Blitz(e), Charge, Cunning, Duelist(e), Investigator, Jeer(e), Leader, Raid, Reversal, Terrain, Trap, Valor, Weaponmaster | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Zhang He (167) 84-91-76-63-73 | Skills: Aid, Ambush, Blitz (e), Charge, Dash, Duelist, Investigator, Jeer, Leader, Loyalty, Raid, Rally, Scout, Terrain, Valour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Zhang Hong (153) 48-32-73-86-79 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Aid, Architect, Articulate, Networking, Propaganda, Scribe, Study | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Zhang Jue (135) 78-43-76-72-97 | Skills: Aid, Alchemist, Charming, Leader, Medic (e), Mystic (e), Riot (e), Rumor | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n/g)

Zhang Liao (161) 96-92-73-60-93 | Skills: Aid, Charge (e), Charming, Duelist, Inspire, Leader (e), Loyalty, Missile, Raid (e), Scout, Valour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Mother: Lady Zhang (140) (n)

Zhang Rang (131) 43-34-71-75-85 | Skills: Architect, Charming, Civil Engineer, Cunning, Networking, Rumour (e), Spy | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (b)

Zhang Zhao (156) 58-42-70-95-71 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Architect, Articulate, Blitz, Invent, Propaganda, Scribe, Study, Wile, Zeal (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (g)

Zhao Yun (168) 89-97-71-62-91 | Skills: Aid (e), Ambush, Charge, Charming, Dash, Duelist (e), Missle, Raid (e), Rally, Reversal, Valour (e), Weaponmaster | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Zhong Hui (225) 60-47-78-80-72 | Skills: Acumen, Articulate, Inspire, Invent, Investigator, Military Engineer, Navy, Rumour (e), Scribe, Scout, Siegecraft, Study (e), Terrain, Trap | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Zhong Yao (151) (b)

Zhou Tai (163) 72-91-52-43-66 | Skills: Aid (e), Arson, Blitz, Duelist, Inspire, Navy, Valour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Zhou Yu (175) 98-63-96-72-94 | Skills: Aid, Articulate, Charming, Cunning, Leader(e), Missile, Navy(e), Networking, Tactician, Rally, Reversal, Wile | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Zhu Jun (149) 87-58-80-83-77 | Skills: Acumen, Administration (e), Ambush, Arson, Dash, Inspire, Investigator, Leader, Spy, Siegecraft, Trample, Trap | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Zhu Ran (183) 77-65-70-83-82 | Skills: Administration, Ambush, Blitz, Inspire, Invent, Leader, Military Engineer, Navy, Rally, Siegecraft, Study | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Zhuge Dan (206) 75-54-60-77-72 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Charming, Farmer, Investigator, Jeer, Leader, Loyalty, Siegecraft, Terrain | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Cousin: Zhuge Liang (181) (n)

Zhuge Ke (203) 70-45-72-82-68 | Skills: Administration, Ambush, Civil Engineer, Cunning, Farmer, Investigator, Jeer, Leader, Siegecraft | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Zhuge Jin (174) (b)

Zhuge Liang (181) 92-33-100-99-91 | Skills: Acumen, Administration(e), Arson, Commercialist, Cunning, Formation(e), Invent, Mystic, Reversal(e), Tactician, Trap, Wile | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Zhuge Gui (148) (n)
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Re: V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Dong Zhou » 15 Feb 2013, 16:16

<stattingXe> Dong Yan 65-63-89-70-74 Statting (e)

Li Jun (160) 93*-66-70-30-60 Aid, Blitz, Charge, Leader, Scout, Vehemence

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Re: V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Tarrot » 03 Jun 2013, 16:59

I'm going to only focus on the later era guys since, most of the people in here have been discussed throughly already or have their bios already translated.


Cao Shuang (207) 44-47-32-67-72 | Skills: Charming, Civil Engineer, Networking | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Cao Zhen (185) (b/n)

- ZZTJ has him being recommended to be the Emperor's guardian, needing help from others to answer the Emperor's questions. Of note, He Yan is referred to as Hu Yan in the ZZTJ under Cao Shuang. Leads the campaign against Shu, fails, alters the laws, starts getting drunk, gets killed. Cao Shuang was bad, but not 32 Int bad. I'm moving int up to 42. Of skills, I'm going Investigator for the changes to laws, which I'd normally go Administration but I think his drunkeness pulling that down. Switching Cha and Pol a little, as he seemed to have little political ability, and only got by because of his connections and the people he hired.

Cao Shuang (207) 44-47-42-62-77 | Skills: Charming, Civil Engineer, Investigator, Networking | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Cao Zhen (185) (b/n)

Chen Tai (203) 87-45-88-84-75 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Ambush, Fusilade, Investigator, Rally Siegecraft, Tactician, Terrain (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Chen Qun (167) (n)
- Recognizes the terrain is an issue for transporting and raids it with Deng Ai. He improves the fortifications so Jiang Wei can't attack. Proposes using Bingzhou troops to attack the Hu, but the Hu rebelled before this could happen. Helps break a siege. Marches up a mountain to get into a position to ambush Jiang Wei. Said he advanced Day and Night to meet one of Jiang Wei's armies. Says Jia Chong must die and dies himself.
- Mobility, Raid, Dash, Military Engineer for new skills, Inspire in place of Rally. To me, he's not 88 smart. He's very knowledgeable of terrain, and knowledgeable about what the enemy is going to do, but I don't think that's 88 level. I'm thinking more low to mid 80s on him. Pol I'm tempted to say is high as there's not much mention of his political actions in the ZZTJ, but leaving that due to Novel/SGZ which I haven't checked. Feel free to correct if you see anything you disagree with.
Chen Tai (203) 87-45-83-84-75 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Ambush, Dash, Fusillade, Inspire, Investigator, Military Engineer, Mobility, Raid, Siegecraft, Tactician, Terrain (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Chen Qun (167) (n)
Xiong Qibing (191) 94*-59-90*-82*-85* | Skills: Ambush, Arson, Dash, Jeer, Raid, Rally, Rumour (e), Stealth, Terrain, Trap, Wile, Zeal (e) | Items: Draft Horse [mount] (Lead +1), The Duke of Zhou's Art of War [treatise] (Pol +2, Int +1, +5% success to Wile ploys), Black Onyx Elephant Pendant [jewel] (Cha +1, Pol +1, Int +1), Jade Dragon Pendant [jewel] (Cha +2, Int +1), Trapper's Map (Lead +1, *Trap), Calligraphy (+2 Bond)
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Re: V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Big Grizzy » 08 Jun 2013, 20:33

I was looking through the skills and noticed the Weaponmaster skill to be far more rare than I think it should be. It seems most notably absent from Guan Yu, Huang Zhong, Taishi Ci and Wen Yang all of whom where shown in the book to be masters of their preferred weapons. There are 24 instances of the other dueling skill Duelist in this list but only 7 Weaponmaster.
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*Stats: 80-80-60-38-54
*Skills: Breeder, Investigator (e), Leader, Valor, Vehemence, Weaponmaster

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*Stats: 40-36-92-56-77
*Skills: Fortunate, Medic, Mystic (e), Propaganda


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Re: V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Lionheart » 09 Jun 2013, 15:56

Big Grizzy wrote:I was looking through the skills and noticed the Weaponmaster skill to be far more rare than I think it should be. It seems most notably absent from Guan Yu, Huang Zhong, Taishi Ci and Wen Yang all of whom where shown in the book to be masters of their preferred weapons. There are 24 instances of the other dueling skill Duelist in this list but only 7 Weaponmaster.


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Re: V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Tarrot » 09 Jun 2013, 16:42

Part of the problem with Weaponmaster is that its hard to decide on a criteria for it. Dian Wei, as an example, used people as clubs and had a situation where he had to improve weapons, which is why he has the (e) in it. However, separating someone from being a good duelist and being skilled with weapons is very different without it just being You have 90 war, so weaponmaster. Huang Zhong probably deserves it as well as Taishi Ci, but thinking about Guan Yu, he's a good duelist and has a named weapon, but what specific thing should give him weaponmaster? Additionally, as a minor aside, giving the elites Weaponmaster would hurt PC duelists in a sense, since now they have to focus on their war, as well as having the elites all have better dueling skills than them. So, in this case, not giving most of the great duelists weaponmaster leaves room for duelists to be on their level.
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Re: V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Big Grizzy » 09 Jun 2013, 17:34

Guan Yu was one I debated on that list. Mostly I included him because, of the Oath Brothers, he is by far the most associated with his weapon, yet Zhang Fei has it instead. Guan Yu also had the most distinguished dueling career in the book, so he seems deserving of the double (e) dueling skills. I would suggest some heroes lose Duelist in favor of Weaponmaster. I haven't read the book in a while, but I recall many people being called master of one weapon or another. Even some who don't rate as hero class should have it. Wu Anguo, amongst others, seems like a good candidate among the lower level NPCs for the switch. Weaponmaster is the weaker skill, so making that switch across a few of the heroes would help balance. Also, Wen Yang and his Chain-Whip/Spear combo needs it. Being a late era warrior does him a great disservice in terms of build.
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Re: V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Tarrot » 09 Jun 2013, 19:31

Usually if they have a named weapon we give it as an item, although Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, and Lu Bu are missing their weapons. I'd guess that's either a balance issue, or a history didn't happen issue. When I get around to finishing these, I'll keep it in mind about weapon proficiency, especially for Wen Yang who Ithink did use multiple weapons, but I could be mistaken.
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Re: V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Big Grizzy » 09 Jun 2013, 20:30

Sun Jian is the only person on the list with natural 90+ war that doesn't have Duelist. Everyone that has Weaponmaster also has Duelist.
Recommended changes to this list:
Huang Gai: -Duelist, +Weaponmaster
Huang Zhong: +Weaponmaster
Sun Shang Xiang: -Duelist
Taishi Ci: +Weaponmaster
Wen Yang: +Weaponmaster(e)
Xu Huang: +Weaponmaster
Xu Shu: +Weaponmaster
Yu Jin: -Duelist, +Weaponmaster
Zhao Yun: Duelist-(e), Weaponmaster+(e)
Zhou Yu: +Weaponmaster

These can be taken with a large grain of salt, since I don't remember for sure who all were described as masters with a weapon. Zhou Yu and Yu Jin I believe were, but I am not positive.
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Re: V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Big Grizzy » 10 Jun 2013, 03:09

"Then a famous leader, with his troop of some hundreds, arrived to offer service. This was Yu Jin of Taishan, an expert horseman and archer, and skilled beyond his fellows in every form of military exercise." Weaponmaster seems iffy to me based on this, but more appropriate than Duelist.

Xu Shu was a fighter before turning to scholarly pursuits. I had thought there was a line about his sword skill, but I couldn't find it. Duelist might be applicable or left off and his high, for an advisor, War kept to show that.
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Re: V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Dong Zhou » 10 Jun 2013, 11:03

I would say Xu Shu should just have good war. Wen Yang certainly seems one who deserves both skills

Weapon Master is something that I think gets kept as a sort of special skill. Fight one duel and you tend to get duelist. You tend to need to show a mastery of weapons to get weaoponmaster (Tarrot gave a good description of the kind of thinking) rather then having a special weapon
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Re: V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Zeronos » 10 Jun 2013, 11:03

Xu Shu was indeed described to being skilled with a sword
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Re: V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Big Grizzy » 10 Jun 2013, 13:57

"When young this man was fond of fencing and used to take up the quarrels of other men and avenge their wrongs."
I would give Xu Shu Duelist based on this. It implies that he dueled but doesn't imply great weapon skill.
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Re: V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Big Grizzy » 10 Jun 2013, 14:44

I would say Weaponmaster should be given to those that demonstrate expertise with one particular weapon (Guan Yu, Cheng Pu, etc.), while the (e) should be reserved for those with multiple weapon proficiencies (Dian Wei, Zhao Yun, etc.).

Also, Deng Ai dueled Wen Yang to a 50 bout standstill, so he should have Duelist (I also think his War should be higher, but he has probably been debated into the ground already).
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Re: V6 Heroes ( NPC Statting)

Postby Tian Long » 13 Jun 2013, 16:58

Dong Zhou wrote:Weapon Master is something that I think gets kept as a sort of special skill. Fight one duel and you tend to get duelist. You tend to need to show a mastery of weapons to get weaoponmaster (Tarrot gave a good description of the kind of thinking) rather then having a special weapon


By this reasoning, Huang Zhong should have Weaponmaster for his legendary skill with a bow as well as being able to duel Guan Yu with polearms.
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