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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Dong Zhou » 07 Nov 2013, 11:37

Ok I'll leave Zhang Yan. One done with the wiki's, I'll take a break (other then any comments from when you stat) then come back onto any new bio's.

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Shi Dan

Maybe Ambush for kidnap? Lowish int for his actions in Jian Ye

Shi Dan (226) 47-40-42-36-53 | Skills: Ambush, Leader, Riot (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (b)

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He Zhi (228) 33-30-43-50-45 | Skills: Acumen, Networking, Rumor | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Sister: Dame He (222) (b)

Maybe a cha rise for his friendship with Sun Hao

He Zhi (228) 33-30-43-50-55 | Skills: Acumen, Networking, Rumor | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Sister: Dame He (222) (b)

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I thought we had Tao Huang somewhere but can't find him

Blitz for driving a wedge, Commercialist for pearl diving, riot for turning people against Dong Yuan. Feel free to fiddle around with the lead and int

Tao Huang (226) 75-60-70-87-53 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Blitz, Commercialist, Leader, Mobility, Navy, Raid, Reversal, Riot, Stealth | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Sister: Tao Ji (???) (n)


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Any extra information on Tao Ji, Liu Jun, Liu Ze, Yu Si, Xue Xu, Dong Yuan, Xie Xi? If not, will do them tomorrow.
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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Tarrot » 07 Nov 2013, 16:36

Shi Dan: No bad for being a brigand and trying to overthrow the Emperor?

Tao Ji: Father, not sister. Can't tell if he was the Jiaozhou Provisional Governor or not, think he was because of Tao Huang's promotion. Also see his brother Tao Jun who I added above my Yu Si bio.

Liu Jun: Too many Liu Jun's to figure out which one is which. Best I can figure out, Wu Provisional Governor, that's all.

Liu Ze: Should be Xiu Ze, corrected it, nothing more in his bio, but he has a lot of info in his SGZ on the people Jin sent.

Yu Si: See the thread.

Xue Xu: 207-270, older brother of Xue Ying. Goes to Shu on a diplomatic mission before their death and comments on the corruption. Was a craftsman, built the inside of a place hall and a temple. He'd be sent on the mission to recapture Jiaozhou and would die of illness on the way back.

Xue Jing: You did him a bit back, and it should be Xue Ying, my fault for screwing up his name.

Dong Yuan, Xie Xi: See the Jin thread, can't find anything on them.
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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Dong Zhou » 08 Nov 2013, 11:47

Shi Dan: Altered

Tao Ji: Oops, no idea why I put that. Skip father due to getting job due to son. Redoing Tao Huang to up int, lower lead a little and replace Blitz with rumour due to Dong Yuan's death. Maybe Riot (e).

Tao Huang (226) 74-60-73-87-53 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Commercialist, Leader, Mobility, Navy, Raid, Reversal, Riot (e), Rumour, Stealth | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Tao Ji (198) (n)

Low lead for Tao Jun

Tao Jun (228) 43-52-46-40-48 | Skills: Aid, Blitz, Navy | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Tao Ji (198) (n)

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Liu Jun (220) 52-50-46-55-50 | Skills: Administration, Leader | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Xiu Ze: Should be intresting when his sgz gets translated then

Xiu Ze (228) 51-50-45-40-52 | Skills: Aid | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

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Yu Si (207) 55-31-49-52-58 | Skills: Aid, Leader, Propaganda | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Add father and change birthdate, add Reversal for turning Sun Lin away from idea and usual civil stuff.

Yu Si (218) 55-31-60-66-58 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Leader, Propaganda, Reversal | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Yu Fan (164) (n)

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Xue Xu: Add the crafting/building stuff.

Xue Xu (207) 51-36-57-60-63 | Skills: Charming, Craftsman, Civil Engineer, Negotiator, Propaganda, Rumour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Xue Zong (187) (n)

Xue Jing: Apparently I did him as Xue Xu for some bizarre reason. Fixed

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Dong Yuan: Poor lead and no leader given the amount of times his soldiers turned on him

Dong Yuan (225) 28-52-57-45-50 | Skills: Ambush | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Xie Xi: Riot or propaganda for being used as? :wink:

Xie Xi (230) 51-50-45-40-42 | Skills: Aid | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)
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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Tarrot » 09 Nov 2013, 13:30

You got the father/son thing wrong. Tao Huang got appointed in Jiaozhou because his father, Tao Ji, was the provisional governor.

I'll run down the guys you did soon, I'll just edit it in here unless you post.

Note: Previously you asked about Yang Yao. He's listed as someone who attached himself to Jia Chong in Xun Xu's bio, which is in the 270s, so he's in the era. Considering Yang Jun was his older brother, that would also put him in the era as well since there's no way the older brother holds office 10+ years after the younger brother's in a position to join a clique.

Note 2: Pei Hui (183) is listed as a provisional governor in Pei Kai's bio, not sure if it changes anything about him.
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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Dong Zhou » 12 Nov 2013, 13:23

Tao Ji (198) 33-34-53-68-50 | Skills: Administration, Networking | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Edited in the father stuff

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Yang Jun

Not quite sure what to do with stats. Low cha for people failing to like him and decent int for a plot or two?. Spy for seizing edict. Feel free to utterly redo him.

Yang Jun (229) 29-30-55-45-33 | Skills: Networking, Spy | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (b)

Again feel free to rewrite brother but would suggest decent int for spotting the flaws of his brother. Spy for finding out about plot

Yang Yao (233) 33-30-67-60-53 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Spy | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Brother: Yang Jun (229) (n/g)

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I know a Pei Hui (185)?

Pei Hui (185) 33-30-54-67-76 | Skills: Charming, Investigator | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Pei Mao (160) (n)

Would raise pol and add skills

Pei Hui (185) 33-30-54-72-76 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Charming, Investigator | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Pei Mao (160) (n)
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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Tarrot » 13 Nov 2013, 18:36

Starting from Page 11 since that has Ren Kai:

Ren Kai: Plus Charming, Administration (e) for him being noted for how hard-working he is, tempted articulate for positions, Cunning for his attempt to get Jia Chong on the frontier, which would've worked if not for the counter-plot of Jia Nanfeng, small int boost accounting for this. Father is on my look up information list.

Ren Kai (223) 40-30-67-81-74 | Skills: Acumen, Administration (e), Charming, Cunning, Networking, Rumour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Pei Xiu: Not in the spirit of it, but I'll go Terrain on him.

Pei Xiu (224) 34-30-54-82-79 | Skills: Acumen, Administration (e), Charming, Civil Engineering, Farmer, Networking, Propaganda, Scribe (e), Terrain | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n) | Father: Pei Qian (182)

Xun Xu: Cunning for coming up with the plan to keep Jia Chong at home, keeping rumor for him lying about Jia Nanfeng, tempted spy for getting secret information from Sima Zhao.

Xun Xu (227) 39-35-73-84-79 | Skills: Acumen, Adminstration, Architect, Artisan, Charming, Craftsman, Cunning, Investigator, Networking, Propaganda, Rumour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Xun Yi (210) (n)

Yang Huiyu: Propaganda for trying to get Xiahou Hui named as an Empress?

Du Yu: 90 lead on mine, Administration for his time in Henan + his law knowledge

Du Yu (222) 90-28-89-75-60 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Aid, Ambush, Charge, Commercalist, Investigator, Farmer, Leader, Mobility, Navy, Riot, Rumour, Strategics | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Du Shu (198)

Wang Hun: You forgot to add scout to him

Wang Hun (213) 76-60-85-87-64 | Skills: Administration, Arson, Charming, Investigator, Leader, Loyalty, Navy, Propganda (e), Raid, Riot, Scout, Siegecraft, Stealth, Strategics, Terrain | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Wang Chang (170) (n)

Du Shu: Articulate for works or Investigator for being blunt/critical?

Zhang Kaiying: Medic for the poison? Maybe not enough for it, but only other thing I can think of.

Tufa Shujineng: I'd put him at 70. Even with his causing Ma Long and Wen Yang to go out there, he has a habit of just beating up on lower guys and then losing horribly. I'll update the extra guys you added if I can find any info on Baidu.

Wang Xiang: I'd say no to Vehemence because I think that was more proper protocol than trying to embarrass someone.

He Zeng: He Ceng (199) is He Zeng, I got the name double-checked, make sure if you update the Encyclopedia to include the note on his name. My original stats only from ZZTJ:

He Ceng (199) 34-42-58-85-75 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Propaganda, Rumor | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: He Kui (169) (n)

Only thing we really differed on greatly was Cha. I'd put him at high 60s, probably 68, because he was real close to Yan and the Jia Chong clique, but had his issues with Ruan Ji + people criticizing his extravagance. Otherwise fine.

Xun Yi: Higher cha because of how much importance he attached to being well-liked in certain circles?

Sima Gui: He strikes me as someone who held his ranks cause of his connection to the Empire. Probably fine to skip.

Wei Shu: Debating raising his Cha since he was only not well-liked when he was younger, and he was said to be handsome. Possibly networking for being the only person to voluntarily resign when the Jin said they were cutting unqualified people from office. Maybe charming in place since he was well-liked when people got to know him.

Sima You: Loyalty because his troops refused to leave him.

Sima You (248) 58-34-64-63-81 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Articulate (e), Charming, Loyalty, Networking, Propganda (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Sima Zhao (211) (n)

Guo Huai: No to artisan since I don't think she made it, Cunning yes, Vehemence for beating two wet-nurses to death

Guo Huai (Lady) (227) 45-30-70-61-74 | Skills: Charming, Cunning, Networking, Rumor, Spy, Vehemence | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n/b)

Yang Zhi: Technically Empress in 276, but don't care if she's left out.

Hu Fang: I'd go reversal for the chess anecdote.

Yang Jun: Trap for taking the edict and not giving it back, plus cunning for his.... plan, I guess, to become sole regent. I think his Cha's way too low. He wasn't popular, but he wasn't hated that much either, and Jia Nanfeng killed his family cause he was in power, not because he was unpopular. I'd boost that up to the 40s while dropping his lead to the low 20s.

Yang Jun (229) 21-30-55-45-43 | Skills: Cunning, Networking, Spy, Trap | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (b)

Hu Fen: Cha boost cause the one person who liked him, Yang Jun, was a jerk, and because he was known for his prestige, and his rep was enough that Yang Jun wouldn't dare hurt him. Vehemence for his taunting of Yang Jun.

Hu Fen (222) 68-73-66-70-65 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Articulate, Leader, Propganda, Siegecraft, Terrain, Vehemence | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Brother: Hu Lie (215) (n)

Meng Zong: Fine. I'm still going here while you finish responses.

Wang Rong: I want to give him something for faking illness to save his life dealing with Sima Jiong, but not sure what for. Thinking spy. Tempted Commercialist for how stingy he was.

Sima Gan: Craftsman for his specialty coffins, Scout for looking at guests outside the gate for a long time, maybe a joke item "Open-air coffin"; possibly Administration for getting involved when it was necessary.

Sima Jun: I'd boost his pol to the mid to high 60s (67 as a number) for people weeping by the road when they heard of his death. Also + networking for his recognizing of the talent of Liu Daozhen.

Sima Rong: Not really much to add, but he seemed like an average politician, at least not corrupt with his unlined pockets, who just didn't have the ability for the positions he was given.

Zhang Fan: Stealth for the name change and his new identity?

Lady Liu: I'd say no. And she's listed as Liu Liu by you.

Shi Bao: I'd go mid 60s int, he learned from his early mistake, he made smart decisions in the Zhuge Dan campaign, and there's his cryptic warning about Cao Mao's rebellion.

Chen Qian: Lead boost for defending against Shu/Zhuge Dan, plus his position as commander of military affairs?

Wang Kai: I'd go networking for his ability to get stuff from Sima Yan for his spending contests. Maybe Artisan for the showy ways he showed off his wealth. Tempted medic for finding a way to get the Zhenniao bird smuggled to his area to make poison out of it, but leaning against it.

Shi Cong: Should be Shi Chong, maybe Vehemence for getting into an argument so heated it got him fired, Cha's fine.

Pei Kai: Double-checking that his father is Pei Hui and not Pei Qian.

Liu Yi: I'd boost his pol higher since it was clear he was considered on Excellency level, but it was his attitude that prevented him from being promoted, and Sima Yan immediately regretted not naming him equal to the excellencies.

Zhou Chu: Scribe for his compilation of Wu customs?

Lu Ji/Lu Yun: Axe them, Lu Yun's listed as 262 birthdate, Lu Ji as 261.

Wang Ji: I want to give him something for cutting down He Jiao's plumtree, but I'm not sure what. I'd go low 70s cha and Charming, since it seemed he could make friends if he wanted, yet made enemies as well if he didn't care.

Pan Yue: Of note, he's one of the many pretty boys Jia Nanfeng allegedly had affairs with.

Yang Xiu: He's weird. On one hand, he was clearly talented, he was able to prep Sima Yan to get him regarded well enough to be named crown prince, but he breaks the law once he gets into power. Its similar to a Pang Tong situation where, hes clearly talented, but didn't apply it properly for one reason or another. I'd go Charming and Networking (e), maybe Arson for having his wine warm all the time.

Wang Xun: Investigator for implementing the, no 1000 people living in a single house rule and carrying it out?

Yang Ji: We added his older brothers, not sure if we should add him just cause his brothers are also in.

Zhang Ti: I'd boost int a bit, but think pol is fine for his position. I get his reasoning for not killing Zhang Qiao, and it changed nothing, but it still was a mistake.

Shen Ying: Scribe for works? And I took his troop command to more be shock-troops ala Gao Shun than a cavalry attack. I'd go blitz and high 50s lead since it seemed they fought valiantly but just weren't enough. Plus he seems more... I don't want to say competent, but the best fighting general Wu had at that point behind Zhang Ti.

Sun Zhen: Well if he was born in 279 that opens up Sima Zhong and Jia Nanfeng. :p

Zhuge Rong: I'd go loyalty if we're going with the interpretation that he really wasn't that good and was kinda playing commander.

Lou Xuan: I'd go Investigator myself.

Lu Ju: I was thinking more scout for realizing the terrain and preparing for it, but either is fine.

Tang Zi: I'd go it.

Tao Huang; Tempted terrain for the arguments of the climate of the south, I'd switch around lead and Int, Lead at like 71/72, Int 75/76, struck more as taking advantage of the situations and being smart than anything, and Dong Yuan still doesn't seem all that good to me. I'd also raise his Cha, for how beloved he was by the locals, and in considering that his only real incident was after a loss which he made up for with his merit. I'd have him high 60s/low 70s Cha.
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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Dong Zhou » 14 Nov 2013, 15:14

Ren Kai: I would agree with Articulate but replace Cunning, think int boost plus rumour covers it.

Ren Kai (223) 40-30-67-81-74 | Skills: Acumen, Administration (e), Articulate, Charming, Networking, Rumour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

You alright with this one?

Meng Zong (226) 40-30-47-74-68 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Farmer, Investigator | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Xun Xu: I'm not sure Xun Xu was much of a schemer, not enough to earn Cunning at any rate. I think secret information reflects more trust then working to acquire it in other ways

Yang Huiyu: depends on the motive. Out of kindness or for propaganda purposes (I can see it given her a good PR thing) but willing to give it to her due to lack of other skills

Yang Huiyu (Lady) (214) 33-30-64-47-72 | Skills: Charming, Networking (e), Propganda | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Yang Dao (159) (g)

Du Yu: agreed

Wang Hun: thanks

Du Shu: I agree with Articulate. Not sure speaking bluntly is enough for Investigator in this case

Du Shu (198) 43-32-49-73-35 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Ambush, Articulate | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Du Ji (166) (n)

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Kaiyang: Alright

Zhang Kaiyang (170) 42-53-70-33-60 | Skills: Medic, Spy (e) | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (b)

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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Dong Zhou » 15 Nov 2013, 15:13

Zhang Kiayang: Here's a thought. Replace Medic with Negotiator (for getting the supplies) and wile?

Agreed with what you have said unless responded to it

He Zeng: Ok but don't think you linked to his post in your thread

Xun Yi: Only a smidgen

Xun Yi (210) 55-50-69-85-74 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Charming, Investigator, Networking, Propaganda | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Xun Yu (163) (n)

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Wei Shu: mmmmmmmmm. No to Networking as that doesn't quite seem to fit. It is tricky his cha, I perhaps could see low cha + charming as a counter, your right he gained once he got going but he spent so long in the shadows and was even considered an idiot.

Something like

Wei Shu (209) 32-60-63-85-41 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Charge, Charming, Missile (e), Scout | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Uncle: Wei Heng (n)

Sima You: Can't believe I didn't think of that

Yang Zhi: If in the time, happy to do her in next few days

Hu Fang: Think Reversal would also suit the mocking more. Also think I underdid the intelligence, tell me what you thinl

Hu Fang (Lady) (257) 31-30-66-43-90 | Skills: Charming (e), Networking, Reversal | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Hu Fen (222) (n)

Hu Fen: Against the cha boost to being that high (though agree 40's was too low), being famed or popular due to ability isn't the same as being charismatic.

Hu Fen (222) 68-73-66-70-55 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Articulate, Leader, Propganda, Siegecraft, Terrain, Vehemence | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Brother: Hu Lie (215) (n)
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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Tarrot » 16 Nov 2013, 08:11

Meng Zong: Fine

He Zeng: My write-up on He Ceng, or my bio over on SOSZ?

Hu Fang: Fine
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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Dong Zhou » 19 Nov 2013, 11:30

He Zeng: your sosz link to bio's

No thoughts on Kaiyamg?

Yang Zhi: Articulate for forgery, missile for archery. Doesn't seem the most competent of political coups

Yang Zhi (259) 40-42-46-47-70 | Skills: Articulate, Charming, Missile, Networking | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Cousin: Yang Yan (238) (n)

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Li Hui (175) 62-54-65-77-75 | Skills: Administration, Charming, Investigator, Leader, Negotiator, Rumor, Siegecraft | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Upping lead for his efforts listed in his bio, slight int rise. Ambush, maybe one other skill for that ruse.

Li Hui (175) 70-60-67-77-75 | Skills: Administration, Ambush, Charming, Investigator, Leader, Negotiator, Rumor, Siegecraft | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

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Wang Rong: Since he has so many skills, would skip spy as we haven't given it to others like Qin Mi for similar acts of fakery.

Sima Gan: I gave Acumen for ability since I tend to give admin more towards the more active/harder workers. I'm almost ashamed of the Craftsman skill

Sima Gan (232) 33-30-70-65-55 | Skills: Acumen, Craftsman, Spy | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Sima Yi (179) (n)

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Sima Jun: Do you mean his cha boost (which I disagree with) or a pol boost to something like 77 which I would agree with?

Sima Jun (232) 62-50-68-77-55 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Articulate, Farmer, Leader, Networking | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Sima Yi (179) (n)

Sima Rong: Wasn't sure if your saying I was too harsh on his scores or your alright with them? Found this on Sima Rong
When the rebels occupied a position at Mount Liang, with an army of 70,000, Sima Rong forced Zhou Chu to attack with just 5,000 troops. General Lu Bo and Governor Xie Xi were supposed to lead their armies in support of Zhou Chu during this battle, but Sima Rong secretly ordered them to hold back once the fighting started. Sima Rong even pressed Zhou Chu's army to go into battle before the troops had time to eat.
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Maybe int up and something like rumour

Sima Rong (236) 25-32-43-62-60 | Skills: Administration, Articulate, Charming, Networking, Rumor | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Sima Yi (179) (n)

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Zhang Xiong: Agreed and fixed his wife

Zhang Xiong (201) 33-35-47-45-73 | Skills: Charming, Networking, Stealth | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (b)
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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Tarrot » 19 Nov 2013, 13:12

Kaiyang: Thought it was fine.

Sima Jun: I felt that his cha was too low for a guy who never really made enemies, and was beloved by the people he governed. If you want that in his Pol that's fine.

Sima Rong: Not necessarily harsh, but I didn't think he was horrible, was my point.

Warning you ahead of time, my Shan Tao bio from Baidu is 50% him asking Sima Yan to retire and Sima Yan refusing, although the anecdote of his wife drilling a hole into a wall to spy on him and Ji Kang/Ruan Ji (swore I read this before) is interesting.
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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Dong Zhou » 20 Nov 2013, 12:04

Zhang Kaiyang (170) 42-53-70-33-60 | Skills: Negotiator, Spy (e), Wile | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (b)

No problem, will check out the bio when I get to Shan Tao or end of current set as I still want to read it even if it might add only a little. Plus we probably should add his wife

I'm assuming no objection to Li Hui.

Lü Kai (194) 60-36-70-62-57 | Skills: Administration, Military Engineer, Scribe, Spy, Tactician, Terrain | Items: Map of Nan Zhong [map] (?) | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

Maybe add Articulate?

Lü Kai (194) 60-36-70-62-57 | Skills: Administration, Articulate, Military Engineer, Scribe, Spy, Tactician, Terrain | Items: Map of Nan Zhong [map] (?) | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

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Shi Bao: fair argument, would probably go 64.

Shi Bao (201) 68-55-64-75-78 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Ambush, Articulate, Charge, Craftsman, Dash, Leader, Military Engineer, Negotiator, Terrain | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

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Chen Qian: Only a tad due to lack of details

Chen Qian (211) 64-50-72-86-43 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Aid, Ambush, Siegecraft, Reversal, Rumour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Chen Jiao (170) (n)

Wang Shen: your sosz link is named Wang Zhan

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Wang Kai: Agree with Networking. Not entirely sure about Artisan to be honest

Wang Kai (223) 33-30-57-70-63 | Skills: Administration, Artisan, Breeder, Negotiator, Networking, Spy | Items: Bling Bull | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Wang Su (195) (b)

Shi Chong: Agreed. A bit more on Shi Chong, I'm thinking Civil Engineer for buildings and dash or breeder for racing.

Shi Chong (249) 53-60-74-77-70 | Skills: Administration, Aid, Ambush, Artisan, Civil Engineer, Cunning, Dash, Fortunate, Vehemence | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Shi Bao (201) (b)
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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Tarrot » 20 Nov 2013, 13:01

The CHF link doesn't work, can you tell me which forum and the thread title?

Fixed Wang Shen.

Fine on all others.
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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Dong Zhou » 21 Nov 2013, 05:12

I'll copy it out, was an old version of the forum I think. From Yun
Have any of you guys heard of Shi Chong 石崇, the most notorious rich man in Chinese history? The Western Jin period saw an immense obsession with money among the elite, with extremes of extravagance and miserliness. Shi Chong was by far the most extravagant of all.

Shi Chong was born in 249, the youngest son of Shi Bao 石苞, a trusted subordinate of the Sima house who had risen to the rank of Grand Marshal (大司马). Shi Chong in his childhood showed intelligence, quick thinking, and physical courage. His father died in 272, when he was 23. On his deathbed, Shi Bao distributed his wealth to his five other sons, but left none to Shi Chong. When Shi Chong's mother asked him why, he said, "This boy may be young now, but one day he will be more than able to gain his own wealth."

Because of his father's prestige, Shi Chong became a county magistrate by his mid-20s, produced impressive results, and rose to the posts of Junior Consultant (Sanqi Shilang 散骑侍郎) and then Prefect of Chengyang. He took part in the Jin conquest of Wu in 280, for which he was rewarded with the aristocratic title of Marquis of Anyang Village (安阳乡侯). Though very busy as a Prefect, he continued studying the Classics to the point that he fell ill and asked to be relieved of his post. Sima Yan (Jin Wudi) was much impressed by his abilities, and raised him to be first a Senior Consultant (Sanqi Changshi 散骑常侍) and then a Counsellor (Shizhong 侍中) in the imperial court.

In 290, when Sima Yan died and was succeeded by the retarded Sima Zhong, Sima Yan's father-in-law Yang Jun dominated the imperial court and freely handed out aristocratic fiefs to win the favour of the courtiers. Every official in the empire was promoted by one rank, and officials from prefect upwards were all enfeoffed as Marquises. Shi Chong was very unhappy about this move, as he felt it cheapened the status of the aristocracy. He submitted a petition warning that if the generous handing out of fiefs went on, within a few generations everyone in the empire would be an aristocrat. However, this petition offended Yang Jun and led to Shi Chong being posted out of the capital as the governor of Jingzhou.

In Jingzhou, Shi Chong realised that he was in control of a major crossroads for trade and transport in the empire, and decided to use his semi-exile to make a killing. Shi Chong was smart and capable (颖悟有才气), but had the unrestrained personality of a Xia (任侠无行检). Even though he was the governor, he simply robbed passing merchants and envoys, confiscating their goods, profits or gifts and keeping them for himself. With this ill-gotten wealth, he built a beautiful mansion for himself, amassed more than a hundred concubines, ate rare delicacies for every meal, and bought instruments of the highest quality for his musicians to play.

Shi Chong received word that he was being posted back to the capital as Minister of Farming, and in his excitement he set out for Luoyang without waiting for the official letter of appointment to arrive. When he arrived in Luoyang, he found out that his breaking of protocol had cost him the post. He was to be posted out again, this time to be in charge of military affairs in Xuzhou. Nonetheless, Shi Chong didn't let this turn of events get him down. He had a luxurious villa in Gold Valley (金谷), on the north bank of the Yellow River, and held a big going-away party there. The capital was emptied of its aristocracy, as everyone flocked there to set up tents and drink wine.

But when Shi Chong got to Xuzhou, he got in trouble again. He challenged the Governor of Xuzhou, Gao Dan, to a drinking contest, and then insulted him when drunk. He was stripped of his post and sent back to the capital. But at this point, he met with another stroke of luck. The power-hungry Empress Jia Nanfeng had eliminated her rivals Yang Jun and Sima Liang in 291, and her nephew Jia Mi was now a powerful man in the imperial court. Jia Mi wished to gather around himself a salon of the best poets and luminaries in Luoyang, and this group surely could not do without Shi Chong, the richest man in the capital. Shi Chong was quickly appointed Minister of the Palace Guards, and happily joined Jia Mi's salon of "Twenty-four Companions" (二十四友). Among these Companions was also Pan Yue 潘岳, the pretty boy poet mentioned in a previous thread. Pan Yue and Shi Chong were the two Companions closest to Jia Mi. Whenever his horse carriage met the carriage of Jia Nanfeng's mother (Jia Mi's grandmother) Guo Huai 郭槐 on the streets of Luoyang, Shi Chong would move his carriage to the side, get off, and prostrate himself in the dust as Guo Huai's carriage went by, as though she were his own mother.

Even before 290, Shi Chong had become famous for his contests of wealth with two other rich aristocrats in Luoyang, Wang Kai 王恺 and Yang Xiu 羊琇. Both were uncles of Sima Yan and had great prestige, and Shi Chong competed with them (especially with Wang Kai) to see who was more opulent and extravagant. Wang Kai used water sweetened with sugar to wash his pots; Shi Chong then used heaps of candles as firewood. When Wang Kai went on a picnic, he would surround his area with a 40 li screen of purple silk; Shi Chong went one up and used 50 li of patterned brocade. Shi Chong used pepper (a rare imported spice at the time) to decorate his walls; Wang Kai then used a rare herbal medicine.

Sima Yan (who was still alive and emperor at the time) did what he could to help his uncle save face. Once he sent Wang Kai a large tree made of shining coral, a priceless luxury item from the south. Wang Kai showed his coral tree off to Shi Chong, upon which Shi Chong took out an iron hammer and smashed it. Wang Kai was furious and accused Shi Chong of jealousy. Shi Chong calmly replied, "Keep your head on, I'll give you something better." At his command, his servants brought out six or seven coral trees that were even larger and more beautiful, and presented them to Wang Kai. Wang Kai was absolutely flabbergasted.

Another time, Wang Kai found he could not beat Shi Chong in three things:
1) When a guest arrived at Shi Chong's house, Shi merely had to give a command and warm bean porridge would be served up immediately, even though beans take time to cook well.
2) Even in winter, Shi Chong could season his food with chopped chives.
3) Whenever Wang Kai and Shi Chong raced their ox-carts to see who could get into the city first, Shi Chong would win - his ox seemed as fast as a bird!

Wang Kai gave a big bribe to one of Shi Chong's servants, and the servant revealed the secret:
1) The beans were cooked in advance and kept on standby - when needed they would simply be thrown into the porridge.
2) The chives were actually preserved chive roots, pounded and mixed with wheat seedlings.
3) When driving an ox-cart, one should try not to control the ox but rather give free rein to it.
Having learned these methods, Wang Kai put them into practice and Shi Chong lost his edge. Later, Shi Chong found out that the servant had given his secrets away, and had him killed.

Shi Chong could be equally merciless to his servant girls. When he entertained guests, he would have ten or more beautiful girls serving wine to them. If a guest declined to go on drinking, even to avoid getting drunk, Shi Chong would order the girl serving that guest to be killed. If the guest continued to decline, Shi Chong would kill the next girl assigned to him. In one instance, three serving girls were killed one after the other. The toilets in Shi Chong's house were also beautifully decorated, and ten or more servant girls would always be in attendance on the male guests who used the toilet, with perfumes and powders at the ready.

But Shi Chong fell in love with one of his serving girls - a beauty named Luzhu 绿珠 (Green Pearl), who played the bamboo flute with great skill. This was to be his downfall. In 300, Jia Nanfeng and Jia Mi were overthrown and executed by the Prince of Zhao, Sima Lun. Because of his close association with Jia Mi, Shi Chong was dismissed from his post. But Sun Xiu, Sima Lun's advisor and hatchet man, wanted more - he desired Luzhu for himself, and sent his men to get her. Shi Chong was then at his villa in Gold Valley, enjoying the breeze at the top of a tower with his concubines and servant girls. When Sun Xiu's messenger arrived and announced his intentions, Shi Chong presented more than twenty of his other concubines, each dressed up beautifully, and asked the messenger to choose any of them. The messenger would not be dissuaded, and said, "Your Excellency's concubines are indeed pretty, but my orders are to get Luzhu, which one of them is she?" Shi Chong exploded with rage, and said, "Luzhu is the woman I love, and she's not yours for the taking!" The messenger replied with a veiled threat: "Your Excellency is a learned man and knows his history - I would urge Your Excellency to consider more carefully." Shi Chong simply said, "No." The messenger left and returned a few times, but each time the result was the same.

Shi Chong knew that Sun Xiu would not let the matter rest - furthermore, his nephew Ouyang Jian (another famed poet and member of the 24 Companions) had offended Sima Lun by exposing his wrongdoings to the imperial court in 296, while his friend Pan Yue had once beaten Sun Xiu mercilessly when the latter was just a humble clerk on his staff. Thus, Shi Chong, Ouyang Jian and Pan Yue secretly approached the princes Sima Yun and Sima Jiong, and urged them to eliminate Sima Lun and Sun Xiu. Sima Yun did lead a coup against Sima Lun soon after, but was defeated and killed. Sima Lun then found out about the parts played by Shi Chong, Ouyang Jian and Pan Yue in the conspiracy. He had an edict issued by the puppet emperor Sima Zhong, ordering the arrest of these three men.

Shi Chong was having a banquet in the tower at Gold Valley when the guards came to arrest him. He turned to Luzhu and told her, "My dear, I've become a criminal for your sake." Luzhu burst into tears, and said, "Let me repay you with my life!" She then leapt to her death from the tower. Shi Chong was heartbroken, but told himself, "I'll only be exiled to the far south at the most." But soon the guards led his carriage to the execution ground, and he sighed, "You scoundrels are just after my wealth!" The leader of the guards said to him mockingly, "Since you know that wealth is a source of disaster, why didn't you get rid of it sooner?" Shi Chong could find no answer to this question. He was beheaded that day, at the age of 51, and his entire clan was beheaded with him. Also killed were Ouyang Jian and Pan Yue, and their clans with them - every man, woman and child.
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Re: V6 NPC's (Statting)

Postby Dong Zhou » 21 Nov 2013, 15:51

Pei Kai: Need to add an sosz link


Pei Kai (237) 34-30-64-80-83| Skills: Acumen, Administration, Charming (e), Investigator, Mystic | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Pei Hui (185) (n)

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Liu Yi

Rereading his bio, I would indeed up his pol and do it considerably. Let me know if you think this is too high

Liu Yi (Han) (216) 33-30-55-87-43 | Skills: Adminstration, Investigator (e), Networking | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (g)

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Zhou Chu: Need to remove the n from your sosz link. Sure on scribe. Adding Loyalty for whole army fighting on in impossible circumstances more Zhou Chu stuff, not sure it adds anything though.

Zhou Chu (237) 69-80-66-77-32 | Skills: Acumen, Administration, Articulate, Blitz, Investigator (e), Leader, Loyalty, Missile, Navy, Reversal, Scribe, Valor | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found | Father: Zhou Fang (200) (g/b)

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Lu's: righty

Wang Ji: I would say farmer for tree cutting but has enough skills.

Wang Ji (249) 30-70-67-74-73 | Skills: Administration, Architect, Breeder (e), Charming, Investigator, Missile, Networking, Rumour | Items: | Ranks: Free Officer | Location: Not Found (n)

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