V6 Character creation

[Kakirot83]

In all truth, I think you should be able to be Roman, but that there should be some hurdle, somewhat self regulated by players, to making you be worth taking.

Players as a whole never did, and frankly, why would they? They have a game to win, excluding valuable pieces hurts their chances for no real gain. It's not something we can expect.

Ummm, pretty sure that was the point of basically everything I typed. Or did we stop reading after what you quoted?

Just stuff along those lines, but I doubt that would ever happen, on the mere fact that, a general is a general is a general, and everyone wants more people.

[Marzy]

I had an extremely sarcastic post to make regarding the inclusion of non-Chinese, but I'll refrain from doing so. Instead I'll simply say that I think the game becomes less immersive when you have mead-swilling vikings and stately Romans included. It'd be nice if the game actually felt like it took place in 3rd century China, but maybe I'm the only one who feels this way. *shrugs*

You'll see more of what you want. At least, that's the intention now.

Ummm, pretty sure that was the point of basically everything I typed. Or did we stop reading after what you quoted?

Just stuff along those lines, but I doubt that would ever happen, on the mere fact that, a general is a general is a general, and everyone wants more people.

I originally had more typed up for Jolt that would have tied into that stuff better, but I edited it down because it was getting long winded and I had to leave. I suppose if you don't want people agreeing with and echoing your points though, I can be a jerk or something. (shrug)

[Kakirot83]

But you quoted me, so I figured it was targeted at me. When you quote someone, and tell them what they just said, it sounds condecending. Quoting the part where I said the problem, and then saying 'you're right, people won't do that, that's the problem', would seem like agreeing with me without talking down to me. Of course, that might just be in my head, who knows.

[OneEyedDrgn]

So, depending on when this game starts and how busy I'll be, going to go for a slight Lawful Evil ruler. I'd like for him to have decent stats in the Lead, Int, Pol, and Cha area... But that's practically asking to be good at everything besides War! So depending on how sign-ups look, might skip on the Lead part or start mid-high on Pol while the other stats average and get developed.

Otherwise, if too busy, I'm thinking of just going for a really nice, mature, Cha female. Set her age around 25 as a middle-class woman selling her crafts for cash and have no real interest in joining kingdoms; so people who want her will have to convince her somehow. Maybe make her cute woobie by making her a ronery woman who wants a husband but has failed in marriage matchmaking in the past due to incredible bad luck, and considers herself unattractive despite not being so.

[Fledgling Phoenix]

I really liked having a successful military character in V5, especially since I was able to try out being a "passives" support build with my tactician. A part of me would like to try going military again with a Supply Captain-Engineer-support type, but those sorts haven't been used as much as more straight-forward generals. Perhaps a governor character of the Lawful Neutral persuasion-- I haven't played a Pol type yet.

[Marzy]

But you quoted me, so I figured it was targeted at me. When you quote someone, and tell them what they just said, it sounds condecending. Quoting the part where I said the problem, and then saying 'you're right, people won't do that, that's the problem', would seem like agreeing with me without talking down to me. Of course, that might just be in my head, who knows.

No, I'm just an idiot sometimes. I edited up what I intended to say to Jolt without also editing up the stuff that followed. Trust me, I don't have enough self-esteem to be condescending to much anyone.

I'm still trying to decide where I want to go with a character. I've already decided to carry on An Xianing's legacy in a way, but I don't particularly want to carry her character build. I had much more fun trying to develop Cai Zheng, so I may end up following that path to see what I can do with it given more game time. :S Decisions...

[Tian Long]

But you quoted me, so I figured it was targeted at me. When you quote someone, and tell them what they just said, it sounds condecending. Quoting the part where I said the problem, and then saying 'you're right, people won't do that, that's the problem', would seem like agreeing with me without talking down to me. Of course, that might just be in my head, who knows.

No, I'm just an idiot sometimes. I edited up what I intended to say to Jolt without also editing up the stuff that followed. Trust me, I don't have enough self-esteem to be condescending to much anyone.

I'm still trying to decide where I want to go with a character. I've already decided to carry on An Xianing's legacy in a way, but I don't particularly want to carry her character build. I had much more fun trying to develop Cai Zheng, so I may end up following that path to see what I can do with it given more game time. :S Decisions...

Honestly I see no harm in a role playing slanted foreigner so long as it is conducted properly . Perhaps set a limit to how many can be allowed through means such as a roll at creation in a similar manner to relation rolls. Of course what happens after that is what would need to be watched for potential disruptions ...

[Wytwyld]

I'm new here, so I don't know exactly how things go. I have been reading up on the creation rules and the character endings, but the character stat posts confuse me a little.

Anyway, I'd like to play a military strategist or domestic strategist who is good, but has no confidence in his own ability. Therefore he lives a common life until someone manages to convince him of his real worth. He constantly tries to improve himself, but is decimated by failure.

[CapnSwashbuckler]

For V6, I'm probably going to play an independent crafter. In real life I like the idea of being able to set my own hours and being my own boss; why wouldn't my character feel the same if he/she/it has a skill everyone wants to make use of? And by being an independent I can take everybody's money!

[D0rk4d0n1s]

the new map is beautiful, i speak truth instead of riddles when i'm drunk

[Kakirot83]

So now I'm torn, and do you know why? Because they just had to make an awesome new map, that still is just blowing my mind. Let me explain (and we know I love talking, so I will):

Lately, I've been leaning towards the idea of making some sort of crafter, probably unaffiliated with any kingdom, and something of a wandering shop kind of idea. You know, start the game with 3+ crafting skills (say somethingl ike breeder, artisan, craftsman), whatever, and things like say Zeal and a couple of other random things. Be pretty even stats wise, with more focus on RPing and just kind of messing around. It seemed like a nice change of pace, something where hell, I might have an effect on things if they still do the whole unique items randomly being made, maybe one day I become an amazing crafter that people seek out. Probably would be resistant to recruiting, but it wouldn't be impossible, just not an easy endeavor, and frankly, being mainly crafting oriented, I'm sure I would sort of be in demand, but not really. That sounds perfectly fun to me.

So where's the problem with the map?

Well, it looks like so much fun, so crazy, and just awesome, I want in. I mean, how much fun are battles going to be now? I mean, it's like transporting might be fun. Transporting! How is transporting something supposed to be interesting? I don't know, but part of me is like, 'you know, it might just be'. And there's my problem. Now I want to be part of a kingdom, just so I have the chance of being part of that map, being in battles, and being like 'yeah, there I go'. Now I have no idea what I'm going to do.

Thanks a lot staff.

[Strategist]

I'm new here, so requesting some advice, but:

-If I get a realistic shot at it, I want to be a Ruler. Fat chance, but it would be very nice- I get a lot of power to affect the course of the game. I would also to recruit valuable people by offering them each large portions of my power and responsibility though answerable to me (like Cabinet Ministers), getting around the responsibility problem. I'm not sure if this hypothetical me should go Crafter(bribe people with items), General (most fun, least effective), or Governor (obvious).

-Assuming I have no shot at Ruler, I definitely want to be a Planning Advisor to an extent (helping my kingdom develop grand strategy plans, contingency plans for possible wars, decisions about where to confront hypothetical invading armies and battle plans for possible points of confrontation etc). But I can do that no matter what my role is. So that leaves:

General- Fun but there's too many already
Naval General- Nice spinoff, gives me a clear area of jurisidiction. There are many more naval battles, but I'm not sure if there will be enough to justify this.

Developer/Governor- Like high demand, hate boring gameplay.

Plotter- It should be obvious with a little thought why I like this one.

Incidentally, I'm tempermentally better suited to serving PCs then NPCs. If any groups are planning conspiracies to take over already, I want in.

[Calistoknight]

I'm new here, so requesting some advice, but:

-If I get a realistic shot at it, I want to be a Ruler. Fat chance, but it would be very nice- I get a lot of power to affect the course of the game. I would also to recruit valuable people by offering them each large portions of my power and responsibility though answerable to me (like Cabinet Ministers), getting around the responsibility problem. I'm not sure if this hypothetical me should go Crafter(bribe people with items), General (most fun, least effective), or Governor (obvious).

Everyone has an equal shot at being ruler and you should just play the character you want to play if you are choosen as such. There has been just about every ruler type under the sun and one isn't necessarily better than the rest in any regard. I wouldn't worry about 'bribing' players, while I'll say as a majority we like feeling important and special, not everyone is looking for a bribe (since most other kingdoms will likely be doing the same). But it never hurts.

Assuming I have no shot at Ruler, I definitely want to be a Planning Advisor to an extent (helping my kingdom develop grand strategy plans, contingency plans for possible wars, decisions about where to confront hypothetical invading armies and battle plans for possible points of confrontation etc). But I can do that no matter what my role is. So that leaves:

General- Fun but there's too many already
Naval General- Nice spinoff, gives me a clear area of jurisidiction. There are many more naval battles, but I'm not sure if there will be enough to justify this.

Developer/Governor- Like high demand, hate boring gameplay.

Plotter- It should be obvious with a little thought why I like this one.

Incidentally, I'm tempermentally better suited to serving PCs then NPCs. If any groups are planning conspiracies to take over already, I want in.

Generals can feel boring at the beginning when you join a kingdom that has 10 and only 2 units of soldiers. But if you hold out long enough a large group of people go inactive after the first few turns and also kingdoms get larger (or get dead) so your chances of seeing combat improve radically. As for the navy general they could be more important to pick up, but that's just one skill out of many and may not radically alter a skill set or concept.

As for the developer, if you find them boring just don't play them! You should have fun here so don't be like "kingdoms need a dev type *SIGH* guess I'll play one *grummble*" Yea just play what you enjoy.

Plotter: Not really skill/stat dependent though you should think in terms of either a general long term goal (taking over a city, assassination of random person, just really easy petty but fun things, etc) and ask some of the more senior plotters for advice, Xeniphon comes to my mind first. But all in all just do what you think you'll enjoy.

[Strategist]

Can somebody give me the best avaliable estimates on how long until we have acess to a draft of the character-creator? I've got several possible build ideas, and I want to start planning for each of them.

[JohannXIV]

Can somebody give me the best avaliable estimates on how long until we have acess to a draft of the character-creator? I've got several possible build ideas, and I want to start planning for each of them.

It'll be at least a month or two, yet. Character creation is one of the last things we put together because it necessarily has to tie together bits from all the other rules.